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Czesc pograłem troszke tych DoN aby zobaczyć na czym to polega, gra jest uatomatyczna wiec spokojnie mozna grac w okolicach 15 stołow w kaskadzie.
Muszę koniecznie popracować nad gra na blindach bo kiedy widze lawine limpów do mojego SB i np 78s to dla mnie easy call, a w DoN chyba niekoniecznie
i drugi częsty mój błąd to rzgrywanei we wczesnej fazie A10. QJ, KQ, KJ, albo z buttona Q10, A9s czy coś w tym stylu

I jeszcze pytanie jestesmy na pozniej pozycji z QQ, 15/30 więc standard to 120 ale jesli mamy 3 limperow to robimy 120 + 3*30 wiec 120+90 czy zosatjemy przy 120.

Acha i jeszce pytanie czy w poczatkowej fazie z para JJ lub QQ walimy alliny PF wlaczac o stacki.

Zamieszczam kilka rozdan i pytania z nimi zwiazane:

Seat 1: Tombo49 (1480 in chips)
Seat 2: donprivate (1480 in chips)
Seat 3: wyattco (1780 in chips)
Seat 4: musiek85 (1480 in chips)
Seat 5: Pinovogel (1360 in chips)
Seat 6: WLR1311 (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: martijnTT (1420 in chips)
Seat 8: RainMaker300 (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: ottomotor (1500 in chips)
Seat 10: youngDave824 (1500 in chips)
musiek85: posts small blind 10
Pinovogel: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to musiek85 [Ad Kc]
WLR1311: folds
martijnTT: calls 20
RainMaker300: calls 20
ottomotor: folds
youngDave824: folds
Tombo49: folds
donprivate: folds
wyattco: calls 20
musiek85: raises 120 to 140
Pinovogel: folds
martijnTT: calls 120
RainMaker300: folds
wyattco: calls 120
*** FLOP *** [Ks Jh Tc]
musiek85: bets 420
martijnTT: calls 420
wyattco: calls 420
*** TURN *** [Ks Jh Tc] [9c]
musiek85: checks
martijnTT: bets 100
wyattco: raises 1120 to 1220 and is all-in
musiek85: folds
martijnTT: calls 760 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (360) returned to wyattco
*** RIVER *** [Ks Jh Tc 9c] [Qc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
martijnTT: shows [Kd Ah] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
wyattco: shows [Qd 5d] (a straight, Nine to King)
martijnTT collected 3440 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3440 | Rake 0
Board [Ks Jh Tc 9c Qc]
Seat 1: Tombo49 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: donprivate folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: wyattco (button) showed [Qd 5d] and lost with a straight, Nine to King
Seat 4: musiek85 (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 5: Pinovogel (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: WLR1311 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: martijnTT showed [Kd Ah] and won (3440) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 8: RainMaker300 folded before Flop
Seat 9: ottomotor folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: youngDave824 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Bez znaczeniajak to się skończyło, ale czy powinnem zostac w rozdaniu, naprzyszlosc bede wiedzial, balem sie tej damy a 2/3 stacka mi jeszce na gre zostawalo

Table '162869434 1' 10-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: musiek85 (1515 in chips)
Seat 2: AAjessieAA (750 in chips)
Seat 3: CIAOBRAVO (1040 in chips)
Seat 4: SimbaHill (1670 in chips)
Seat 5: Damn-the-Rat (1420 in chips)
Seat 6: crankydank (950 in chips)
Seat 7: fcukml (1385 in chips)
Seat 8: JayOh1981 (1460 in chips)
Seat 9: Lukkieb0y (3295 in chips)
Seat 10: donprivate (1515 in chips)
Damn-the-Rat: posts small blind 15
crankydank: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to musiek85 [Qd Qh]
fcukml: calls 30
JayOh1981: folds
Lukkieb0y: folds
donprivate: folds
musiek85: raises 90 to 120
AAjessieAA: folds
CIAOBRAVO: folds
SimbaHill: folds
Damn-the-Rat: folds
crankydank: calls 90
fcukml: calls 90
*** FLOP *** [4c 5c 7c]
crankydank: checks
fcukml: checks
musiek85: bets 330
crankydank: calls 330
fcukml: folds
*** TURN *** [4c 5c 7c] [7h]
crankydank: checks
musiek85: bets 530
crankydank: calls 500 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (30) returned to musiek85
*** RIVER *** [4c 5c 7c 7h] [Ah]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
crankydank: shows [Tc Ac] (a flush, Ace high)
musiek85: shows [Qd Qh] (two pair, Queens and Sevens)
crankydank collected 2035 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2035 | Rake 0
Board [4c 5c 7c 7h Ah]
Seat 1: musiek85 showed [Qd Qh] and lost with two pair, Queens and Sevens
Seat 2: AAjessieAA folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: CIAOBRAVO folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: SimbaHill (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Damn-the-Rat (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: crankydank (big blind) showed [Tc Ac] and won (2035) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 7: fcukml folded on the Flop
Seat 8: JayOh1981 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Lukkieb0y folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: donprivate folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Czy na jednokolorowym flopie kontynujemy nasze betowanie??

Table '162869201 1' 10-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: CoachJJA (1165 in chips)
Seat 2: NavyEWCBob (1165 in chips)
Seat 3: Damn-the-Rat (2035 in chips)
Seat 4: tylersuncity (1090 in chips)
Seat 5: musiek85 (1530 in chips)
Seat 6: benjeystar (1880 in chips)
Seat 7: amtjPL (1550 in chips)
Seat 8: jettt070 (1715 in chips)
Seat 9: JayOh1981 (1460 in chips)
Seat 10: CostTheFrost (1410 in chips)
CoachJJA: posts the ante 5
NavyEWCBob: posts the ante 5
Damn-the-Rat: posts the ante 5
tylersuncity: posts the ante 5
musiek85: posts the ante 5
benjeystar: posts the ante 5
amtjPL: posts the ante 5
jettt070: posts the ante 5
JayOh1981: posts the ante 5
CostTheFrost: posts the ante 5
NavyEWCBob: posts small blind 25
Damn-the-Rat: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to musiek85 [Qs Qc]
tylersuncity: folds
musiek85: raises 100 to 150
benjeystar: folds
amtjPL: folds
jettt070: calls 150
JayOh1981: folds
CostTheFrost: folds
CoachJJA: folds
NavyEWCBob: folds
Damn-the-Rat: raises 100 to 250
musiek85: raises 475 to 725
jettt070: folds
Damn-the-Rat: raises 475 to 1200
musiek85: raises 325 to 1525 and is all-in
Damn-the-Rat: calls 325
*** FLOP *** [5c Qd Jd]
*** TURN *** [5c Qd Jd] [7h]
*** RIVER *** [5c Qd Jd 7h] [4c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Damn-the-Rat: shows [Kd Kh] (a pair of Kings)
musiek85: shows [Qs Qc] (three of a kind, Queens)
musiek85 collected 3275 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3275 | Rake 0
Board [5c Qd Jd 7h 4c]
Seat 1: CoachJJA (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: NavyEWCBob (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Damn-the-Rat (big blind) showed [Kd Kh] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 4: tylersuncity folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: musiek85 showed [Qs Qc] and won (3275) with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 6: benjeystar folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: amtjPL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: jettt070 folded before Flop
Seat 9: JayOh1981 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: CostTheFrost folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Rozumiem ze w takiej sytuacji gram PF o stacki... Smile

slazak8

Więc tak

1. jak jest lawin a lipow przed nami to 78s to easy call tylko ze jak gramy 15 stołów i bawimy sie w takie coś to nie damy rady więc fold.

A jeśli chodzi o granie takich rak jak AT KQ KJ we wczesnej fazie no to napisze tylko tyle że tego nie robimy i trzymamy sie taktyki o ktorej mowilem.

Jesli chodzi o podbicie z QQ przy limperach to ja podbiłbym o jeden bb wiecej bo jak podbijam o 3 wiecej to za bardzo ingeruje sie w pule...

Z JJ i QQ nie walcze o stacki na niskich blindach pre flop.

Rozdanie 1.
Rozegrane dobrze a po takim turnie betcie jednego i all inie drugiego mamy easy fold.

Rozdanie 2.
Dość trudna sytuacja i często się można wpakować. Jedyna rada jest taka żeby po flopie mocno zabetować tak jak to zrobiles. Jesli robi call to albo ma dobry draw albo juz ma kolor. Wiec w takiej sytuacji na turnie chyba bym juz nie kontynuował. W każdym razie wracając do pytania na jednokolorowym boardzie betujemy jesli jestesmy callowani to zwalniamy albo faldujemy to betu przeciwnika.

Rozdanie 3.
Jeśli chodzi o tą sytuacje to jedyne co nas ratuje to to że słabi gracze z bardzo dobrą kartą zazwyczaj przebijają minimalnie żeby nas wciągnąć jak widzisz podejrzanie niski bet jest duza szasna ze to jest KK albo AA. Mozna zrobic hero fold albo mozna sie stackowac. Ja nie bede mowil ze zawsze folduje przy tego typu przebiciach ale mam tak 50 /50 w takich sytuacjach. Czasami poprostu nie da się uniknąć przegranej.